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i'm sorry, but those going for EAS still go to my daughter's school for the first year and leave. there are of course students getting 10As in CE and continue their studies for IB but eventually didn't get a 45. furthermore, no locals in that particular class got a PG 7 for Eng A2 HL, only a girl from Brazil got it.

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i assume that a student should try their best to get the highest grade, but not by using this kind of strategy. i thought you are talking about the strategy to get a 7 instead of a 6, but i now realise i'm wrong.

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would half of the students from local schools?

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about 40% of them. this year, about 10 of them left for EAS.


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yes most ppl choose 4HL at first including my daughter but almost everyone drop one HL eventually. it is not necessary and the workload between HL and SL is a huge difference.

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Still do not quite understand how to use the choice of HL/SL choice as a strategy, can you explain more?

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Annie

IBDP has unique feature in HL/SL, eventually, I don't fully understand how to play around. As a dad, I wish my boy can do as many HL as possible to challenge his potential and ability. The IB coordinator and other parents always remind me don't think about that. They shared with me that University admission officer more focus on predicted or actual IB scores instead of HL/SL, unless some programs listed out specific language or special requirements. Aim for 3HL instead of 4 or 5 HL even you are capable to do that, maximise the score >> HL.

My son picked 6 subjects based on the following considerations:
1. Target programs - Pharmacy, Medicine, QF, Economics........
2. Admission grades of different programs
3. % of different grades in IB subjects, both HL/SL
4. Confidence to get max scores and margins
5. Grade boundaries of different grade and different subject

If my son is capable to take 4HL, he will consider his target programs like Medicine or Pharmacy needs Chemistry HL - 7, Economics or QF needs Maths HL - 7. Physics and Economics need to weigh, in another post, I addressed that Economics is a bit easier to score 6-7, he also feels doing eassy is easier than lab reports... timewise. He also evaluated the quality of teachers and pick the right subjects.

For Language is another issue, he must take both syllabus A and Literature and Language stream. He prefers SL to maximise the predicted score..... some of his classmates' English standard close to native and aim for Law may opt for HL...... I heard some parents said, SL may 1 grade higher than HL (I can't validate that yet...).

After this reply, I should use "Analysis" instead of "Strategy" in my previous post. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

ANChan59

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-10-6 10:39 編輯 ]

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University program and High school subjects selection

Just shared what I did for my son in previous years.

1. Exposure - from P5 onward, I brought him to visit factories in HK & China, different office/work environment, visited universities and saw their research outputs, business lunch and dinner. No specific objectives, just exposure only....

2. Internship - business, research, shadowing ...... like private hospital vs public hospital, family medicine vs surgery.... teaching vs research....... HKU vs HKPU vs CUHK....

3. Strengths vs interests - Maths is his exceptional strength, but he will not take Pure Maths or Science subjects, he is interested in economics and finance which is highly related to numbers and modelling. He loves IT, but he won't study IT (software or hardware) or take it as career......

4. Experience sharing - once he identified some areas of interest, we arrnaged some gatherings or telephone talks with "insiders" to explore the pros and cons........Always have conflcted opinions, it's upto him to validate and narrow down his options. Initially, he was interested in Pharmacy, after talking to two "insiders", he switched to medicine....

5. Elimination - most kids can't tell where to go, but they can tell where they don't want to go........ his elimination may not sensible, just gut feeling or misled by wrong info.....

1-5 not in sequencial order...... That is brainstorming, better before F4.....

Once narrow down the career options, checked the admission requirements (Language, general and special) by attending Information day and seminars, meet with further studies officers........ It's critical to pick suitable subjects and admission grades before F4.

No matter how hard we try, still have gaps....... that's what he need to improve between F4 - F6.

Different family has different ways of doing career exploration. Just sharing, no right or wrong..... no single way.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-10-6 20:44 編輯 ]

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I guess your son is your only child, right? Obviously you do a lot and plan very very well for him.

I have 2 kids, the younger one still in primary, so not so much time for the elder one. Yet actually my elder daughter does not like us asking her about her IB choices or career interest, not to say arranging any meetings or visits for her. So I just let it be.

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You are right. but we also struggled during his G7-G9. Once he settled down and focus more on academic and career consideration, it's the chance for you. Your case is typical, no need to worry.

Sometimes, I need to explain to him why this gathering is important, like a Chair professor of XXU in MMM Faculty will sit next to you and you can chat with him about the program you are interested in, it's up to you......... he had a good chat with the Professor and impressed him so much. A year later, he sent an email to the Professor with CV and the attachment was arranged.

Of course, he turned down some other occassions due to different reasons, like he was busy, clashes with his other engagements, not interested.........

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原帖由 ksenia 於 11-10-4 23:18 發表
but it's about your ability at first. those who are from dgs, dbs, spcc only got a 6 for their PG.

Are you talking about English A2 or A1? My son wish to study law, so I think he has to take English A1 HL to show his ability to Universities.

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The IBO has cancelled A1 and A2 courses this year, in which they changed it to A Lit/A Lit & Lang. Pure literature is more difficult to get a higher grade than Literature and Language while L&L is more useful in daily life. I recommend you to take L&L Higher but be reminded that it is really difficult to get a 7.

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原帖由 ksenia 於 11-10-8 11:09 發表
The IBO has cancelled A1 and A2 courses this year, in which they changed it to A Lit/A Lit & Lang. Pure literature is more difficult to get a higher grade than Literature and Language while L&L is mor ...

ksenia

Initially, I also thought Lit more advance than Lit & Lang.

After clarify with a few sources, they said both are equivalent with different emphasis. Furthermore, Lit may have more past revision & exam materials cf Lit & Lang.

You are right, L&L will be more useful than Lit only.

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ANChan59,

Many thanks for your contribution to this topic.

It seems that DBS and SPCC do not offer Business and Management for their IBD students while LPCUWC offer only SL to this subject.

Why don’t the elite schools offer this subject as elective? Is it less valued by Professors from the renowned universities? Is it considered too laid back to take this subject? How do you compare the choices of this subject and Economics if someone who wants to be enrolled in a hot professional subject?

Many thanks.
Tommy

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Tommy

I try to answer your questions.

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It seems that DBS and SPCC do not offer Business and Management for their IBD students while LPCUWC offer only SL to this subject.
[I am not sure SPCC & LPCUWC's rationale, but I know DBS offered the Business & Mgt elective before. Students didn't take it may be due to the elective not their cup of tea.]

Why don’t the elite schools offer this subject as elective?
[DBS offers the said program before, no one take it.]

Is it less valued by Professors from the renowned universities?
[Most business schools won't take B&M as compulsory subject. If my son take this elective will narrow down his choices of program in UG.]

Is it considered too laid back to take this subject?
[I didn't review the syllabus and shouldn't comment on this. Some parents may have your feeling. Also a good IBDP teacher should stretch each student a bit and also consider their predicted grade.]

How do you compare the choices of this subject and Economics if someone who wants to be enrolled in a hot professional subject?
[After discussing with different professors in different occasions, they focus on predicted grades of IBDP more than individual subjects. May be other parents or insider to verify this. I further reviewed the % of students got grade 6-7 in two subjects in previous exams, no matter SL or HL, Economics is easier to get better grade, but I don't mean Economics easier than B&M. Personally, I consider Economics is more difficult than B&M.

What you mean hot professional programs? If you mean Professional Accountance, QFin......., B&M is not compulsory, and universities will adopt school-based admission, so students will take mgt in the 1st year.

For non-JUPAS in all universities, they consider applicants individually. Professors may consider the applicants a bit different from JUPAS, I guess they may prefer Economics in QFin.]

ANChan59

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I also think L&L is more practical compared to Lit. What I think is a 6 in A1 Lit HL is good score to me, a 7 need a bit of luck.

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Initially, I also thought Lit more advance than Lit & Lang.

After clarify with a few sources, they said both are equivalent with different emphasis. Furthermore, Lit may have more past rev ...

I do hope universities seeing these 2 subjects equally. If so I would like my son to take L&L. But lack of past exam material is a concern.

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I guess universities will treat both equally as most professors may not know the details. They only consider HL/SL (one grade difference) and mother language or not, A will be fine.

I read some assignments from my son, its interesting but not easy. Write an eassy about Post Colonialism..... Analyse an adv from newspaper - content analysis ...... Good for them in further education and career....

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