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CUHK 9/10; HKU - non-JUPAS updated 30/10 [複製鏈接]

ANChan59

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Thanks YMCAkids information and my family can attend some admission talks on interested faculties. The information is useful and made my son to set a goal for hot programs, 3 yrs to go.

We targeted the general talks on non-JUPAS admission, Medicine (half clashed with Pharmacy and we need to queue up for Medicine) and Quantitative Finance and Global Business. As too many people to queue up, we dropped Global Business finally.

non-JUPAS admission talk, most info are covered by the admission talks in other faculties, if clashed with other talks, I recommended to drop it.

2010 Medicine admission data:
EAS - 175 applicants, 170 interviewed and 57 admitted;
JUPAS - Before AL, 458 applicants, 71 interviewed   
           (HKCEE 33/7=4.7, 6A1C or 5A2B);
           After AL, 189 applicants, 107 interviewed;
           Total 54 admitted (median WGPA = 4.3);
Non-JUPAS - 523 applied (some are clearly not meet minimum requirements), 122 interviewed, and 53 admitted (included 2 Med-2, 2 Med-3)

For JUPAS admission, they used WGPA to review academic results + interview, WGPA = 25% HKCEE results + 75% HKAL results.

Shortlisted for interview still only have 1/3 of chance to be admitted.

Non-JUPAS included wide spectrum of backgrounds and I summarised some notes from the talk in Medicine:
1. Graduates - Postgraduates or undergraduates of relevant subjects from top universities like UC Berkerly, Cambridge etc; GPA average 3.8-3.9.
2. IB - Min requirement for interview 40/42 (not included the bonus point), at least 3HLs from 6 subjects, Chenistry HL is essential.
3. GCE AL - interviews based on the GCSE and AS results, 10A* in GCSE and 4 A* of AS level with average over 95%. The conditional offers based on 4 AL results with average 90%.
4. Australia and New Zealand - top 0.5% of UMAT results.
5. Canada & US - Canada scored over 95%; SAT over 2300.
6. Transfer students - CUHK internal transfer average GPA 3.7; other university in HK treated as non-JUPAS, discouraged by UGC.

The EAS of GCSE or IGCSE are going through non-JUPAS route, but the number is limited.

2012 double cohorts - Medicine is 5 yrs for HKAL students, HKDSE is 6 years, but the total number is not double.

Then, some professors from 4 specialties and two graduates to share their experience.Their sharings are very reviewing and insightful.

My wife and my son attended the talks of QF and I will summarise that later.

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Tommy

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-9 16:25 發表
2. IB - Min requirement for interview 40/42 (not included the bonus point), at least 3HLs from 6 subjects, Chenistry HL is essential.


呢個IB分數好高難度喎！會唔會比HKCEE 6A 1C, GCSE 10A* 更難呢？

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Tommy

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有無講到將來的 HKDSE 要大約咩成績先有得INTERVIEW?

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ANChan59

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原帖由 Tommy 於 10-10-9 22:48 發表
呢個IB分數好高難度喎！會唔會比HKCEE 6A 1C, GCSE 10A* 更難呢？


After the talk, I talked to 2 professors and they said those requirements are only for interview only. If you score 41 & 42, you definitely admitted.

If no more EAS, may be more spaces for non-JUPAS, the score may around 39-40 (my expectation only). One professor admitted that most IB students interview performance much much better than local students.

If students score as Medicine's requirement in CUHK, they can join Oxford, Cambridge, Ivy League. My son will go somewhere else.

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ANChan59

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原帖由 Tommy 於 10-10-9 22:50 發表
有無講到將來的 HKDSE 要大約咩成績先有得INTERVIEW?


No ideas.

HKDSE, without any territiory public exam results before that, it's difficult for university to screen students, unless they have IGCSE or equivalent, Very soon more and more HK students sit for IGCSE, just the same pattern as Cambridge English Test.

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WYmom

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Yes, the IB score requirement for Medicine is at least 40 (I know it from some alumnis who graduated from my kid's school and are doctors from CUHK or HKU already).  CUHK Medicine is actually very good.  The competition into hot programs is very high now for non-jupas as there are many top students from mainland China.

I have also visited their law school and watch the Moot court demonstration.  The students must speak very good English, as they have to present in English.  I notice that students came from top local English schools or International schools.

There are really too much to know in one day, can only get a very rough idea and can get to understand more in depth after identifying the target programs.

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ANChan59

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回覆 6# WYmom 的文章

I attended the first talk of Medicine, if you attend other sessions, pls share with us anything I missed or didn't mention here.

For Medicine, Prof Tam mentioned that CUHK using System Based Integrated Approach and HKU using Problem Based Learning, it's new for us.

I didn't attend the admission talk for Chinese students, I would like to know their % in different faculties. I know many of them are going for Business, Science and Engineering. For Medicine, the real competition comes from undergraduates and postgraduates from local and overseas univerities.

My freind & his son visited Law School, they all impressed by the new established Law School. My son not interested in Law, personally, I think he is good fit for it.

I also echo your view too little time and too much to know. Nowaday, more and better info can make a better decision. After 4-5 hours, my son concluded that his choice of subjects in IB are fine, no good score , no good program. As dad, it serve the purpose and looking forward to visit HKU on 30th Oct.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-10 10:53 編輯 ]

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-10 10:32 發表
I attended the first talk of Medicine, if you attend other sessions, pls share with us anything I missed or didn't mention here.

For Medicine, Prof Tam mentioned that CUHK using System Based Integrat ...


Oh, we did not attend any admission talks, just got a lot info. booklets, visited some science lab, studios, moot court etc.  My kid is not interested in medicine.  I am also very impressed by the law school.  We prepare to focus on re-visiting a few programmes only next year.

I think if the students work hard to get an IB score of 35-36 or above, they can have high chance to get in local Us.  If over 38, then they can get into Ivey League or top tier Us overseas.

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回覆 8# WYmom 的文章

Yes, we have the same conclusion, if score more than 40, many good chance for top notch international universities.

For Oxford and Cambridge, just 38-42 score (included bonus point) is eligible for interview. 45 is equivalent to 6.5 AL As.

For Global business, 37 for interview, Quantitative Finance is 38 in CUHK.

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-9 23:14 發表


After the talk, I talked to 2 professors and they said those requirements are only for interview only. If you score 41 & 42, you definitely admitted.

If no more EAS, may be more spaces for non-JUPA ...


Thanks for the useful information.  I did visit CU with my wife and my elder son yesterday.  But, we didn't attend any seminar.  We just walked around the campus, felt the different atmosphere in different colleges, shared the learning experience with some students.

Nothing to share with you at the moment.  The only achievement we gained is my son gets a brief understanding of the university life and is willing to work hard for a U place in future.

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原帖由 Tommy 於 10-10-10 18:30 發表

The only achievement we gained is my son gets a brief understanding of the university life and is willing to work hard for a U place in future.


It's a great step for your son, set a realistic goal to get into the target university.

My wife and my son teased each other that they couldn't get into the threatre to listen some program talks, not even get admitted into the hot program. They have good laugh......

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-13 19:58 編輯 ]

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-9 23:18 發表


No ideas.

HKDSE, without any territiory public exam results before that, it's difficult for university to screen students, unless they have IGCSE or equivalent, Very soon more and more HK students  ...


ANChan59,
想請教。
我小朋友是第二屆 334 學生，會選擇考 HKDSE。
你認為考 IGCSE (English)，如果成績好，對申請入大學有幫助嗎？
我在考評局找到有關資料：
IGCSE 有分兩種
(A) London Examinations, Edexcel International
(B) University of Cambridge International Examinations
請問應該選哪一種？F.5上學期考 (Oct/Nov)是否最適合？

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ANChan59

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回覆 12# 蘇太 的文章

我小朋友是第二屆 334 學生，會選擇考 HKDSE。 (My son supposed to be 2nd batch of 334, he selected IBDP finally.)

你認為考 IGCSE (English)，如果成績好，對申請入大學有幫助嗎？(I am not sure as he goes for IB and I didn't attend the admission talk related to NSS. You can ask CUHK's admission office.)

我在考評局找到有關資料：
IGCSE 有分兩種
(A) London Examinations, Edexcel International
(B) University of Cambridge International Examinations
請問應該選哪一種？(In UK, I guess they are pretty equivalent. If I were you, I will pick Cambridge.)

F.5上學期考 (Oct/Nov)是否最適合？(My friends' kids sit for IGCSE either F4 and or 1st term F5.)

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-14 11:26 編輯 ]

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ANChan59,
謝謝。
Cambridge 是否比較淺？

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ANChan59

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原帖由 蘇太 於 10-10-14 13:09 發表
ANChan59,
謝謝。
Cambridge 是否比較淺？


I have no clue it's easier or not, more acceptable in HK is the key.

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ANChan59

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HKU Information Day 30/10

Just back home and shared some new information of HKU Medicine and Business Faculty.

Majority of the information of HKU& CUHK are identical, I just added some info not the same as CUHK.

The admission talk of MBBS are full-house and surprise to the Medicine Faculty. The administrator did a survey of the attendents in the lecture threatre, F7 is the minority (Surprise), majority is F6 (for EAS) and F4-F5 (HKDSE), others are non-JUPAS and parents.

They also used weighted score for admission, HKCEE 20-30%, HKALE 70-80%. Average Grade of HKCEE 4.72, HKALE 4.8X.

They shared more about the interview questions
1. Self introduction;
2. Discussion in both Cantonese and English; and
3. Sharing team-work experience.

The min requirement of HKDSE is too general and not much new info.

For IB, they count 40-42 included bonus point, sounds lower than CUHK requirement. I doubt it...... (My son told me that 40-42 for interview, average admission score 42 after talking to admission officer.)

For QF is the same as CUHK, 38-40 score.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-30 23:04 編輯 ]

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They said that the chance of entering the U is 1/12.  There are around 40K applications last year, around 50% are non-jupas, and 9K from mainland China.  So the admission scores are going higher and higher due to the increasing no. of applications.

So ANChan, is your son going to enter U by 2013?  I think the competition is highest in 2012.

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回覆 17# WYmom 的文章

I have the feeling that the admission grade of HKU lower than CUHK is unbelievable.

No matter of how many applicants from mainland, the limit is 5% and they compete among themselves.

20k for non-JUPAS, 9k from mainland, 11k are from AD, HD, GCE, IB etc.

As the HK$ devaluate with US$, the overseas educational cost getting higher and higher, so more and more students apply local universities with GCE results from UK (HK students), of course some are kids of our dear civil servants to get the best of everything. GCE AL standard compares with IBDP still have a gap, if our kids work harder and do better in exam will be fine.

After two admission talks, my dear son's conclusion, no good grades (38+), just forget it. He loves HKU more than CUHK, esp. after took a hall tour - St John Hall.

He will take SAT this year or next year for US univrsities and may apply two universities in UK, definitely LSE is his first choice.

He will sit for IBDP in 2013.

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ANChan59,

In the past, students taking IBDP competed with F.7 A-Level graduates.  In the future, they will compete with F.6 HKDSE graduates.  If IBDP is equivalent to F.7 A-Level, then IBDP should be more advanced than HKDSE.  

So, in the future, for the same hot subject in the same university, do you think the entry requirement for the IBDP students will be a bit lower?

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原帖由 Tommy 於 10-10-31 01:03 發表
ANChan59,

In the past, students taking IBDP competed with F.7 A-Level graduates.  In the future, they will compete with F.6 HKDSE graduates.  If IBDP is equivalent to F.7 A-Level, then IBDP should be ...


I think so, as no more EAS, may be more quota for IBDP, both universities claimed to take the best students.

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