FOR PARENTS.......DBS, DPJS, DPS

DBBoy

Dear All

I again have to state that my views are mine alone and I try to be impartial on what I write.

It is obvious that a child's background should not affect the chance of him receiving quality education.  What I am trying to say is that being the son of an old boy doesn't get you in, getting many awards and certificates does not get you in (I hope at least)

As I have mentioned, a school like DBS, LSC, DGS, MCS, etc. is about values, beliefs and school spirit.  To get a computer with no software is of no use.  Getting into DBS without any appreciation of what it represents is also of no value.

What I am hoping to do is to encourage those who appreciate these qualities to get into the school and discourage those who has no appreciation of its values and methods.

DBBoy

JBAMA

Dear all,

First of all, I believe feeling proud of his son(s) is quite a natural thing for any fathers. I would also be very proud my child can get into the school aimed for(Whatever the school is). I congradulate DB boy for that. And I thank him for sharing his feelings of love to his boys and his love to his school.

JBAMA

DBBoy

Dear All

"System should be fair in majority of cases" really means that even I, as an old boy of DB cannot bet my life on whether there actually exist any fact or matter that could be considered to be unfair.  By reason of the imperfection of human nature, these things bound to happen in school, at work, in government, etc.

"..the family, they are cut throat and mean"

The point that I was trying to make is that the family affects the kid.  Whilst I have no hard fact or information on why this certificate loaded kid was not accepted, my best guess would be that the attitude of the parents flowed onto the kid and affected his performance at the interview.  This is my best guess only and I would be unconditionally willing to withdraw this statement and sincerely offer my apologies to those who feel insulted or disturbed by this statement.

Just hoping to do some good and no offence was ever intended

DBBoy

LungWai

Despite your comment on family background -"harsh" and "cutthroat", I do understand you wanted to stress the importance of agreeing the DBS spirit is an important attribute DBS is looking for in selecting students.

Since your have withdrawn these words, I think this is fair enough to end that part of the discussion.

Please tell us more of your school.

BTW, are there any DBS vacancies for F.1 now for application?  Some of my friends's sons still want  to try this school.

precious

These are messages of sharing and I find precious moments from an old boy who love his school so much.   It is priceless to remember something nice and memorial in the past.

My son will enter primary 1 of another boy school soon.  I wish he will love studing and enjoy his time in the school as well.

DBBoy

Information for admission into F.1 should be contained in the DBS website.  I shall write a bit more about the school for your information soon.  Hope you will enjoy

DSS

I  had interest to know whether the father of the 'cut throat' family was an ex-DBS boy or not?  If he's not, some people may view it as another incident of unfairness.

Besides, being an ex-DBS boy myself, I presumed all kids of those 'ex-DPS' father had already been accepted by DPS through the 'POINT' system over the years.  However for those 'ex-DBS' boys who actually projected the achievement of 'DBS', their kids would not be given any bonus for DPS.  

The setting up of DBJS may remedy such deficiency and I trust that's also one of the reasons why DBBoy's kids needed to be jammed into P.2 and P.4 at this stage.

Again parents with no connection with either DPS or DBS will think it is unfair to some extent.  

DBBoy

Dear All

Should I be the person who were given the responsibility of devising the "fair" system, I perhaps would pull all of my hair out.  It is close to impossible to devise a "perfect" system.

For your information, the father of the rejected boy with loads of certificates was not related to the Diocesan schools.

DBBoy

DBBoy

Dear All

I have been reading some of your messages and realise that some parents are now engaging home teachers to learn the school syllabus in advance to give their kid a head start.  This is in my view unnecessary.

In my year, many of the boys whose results rank amongst the last have become lawyers, doctors, accountants and got themselves very prestigious jobs and those who excelled in school ended up in similar positions.  We adults could confirm that in the commercial world, academic results ranks second to life's wisdom, unless one wants to be an academic.

Knowledge can be gained by study and wisdom is gained by experience.  I just hope that all parents could allow their kids to enjoy school, their childhood and puberty years.  Do not stifle your child and take all the fun out of growing up.

My rules are that my sons need to be healthy, sporty, polite, speaks and read good English and Chinese, plays one music instrument and promotes to the next year without problems.  I will never give him any pressure on academic results as long as he keeps himself ranking higher than one-third of his class.

fm1128

DBBoy 寫道:
Knowledge can be gained by study and wisdom is gained by experience.  I just hope that all parents could allow their kids to enjoy school, their childhood and puberty years.  Do not stifle your child and take all the fun out of growing up.

My rules are that my sons need to be healthy, sporty, polite, speaks and read good English and Chinese, plays one music instrument and promotes to the next year without problems.  I will never give him any pressure on academic results as long as he keeps himself ranking higher than one-third of his class.

DBBoy,

100% agree and this is what I want.

Tiny_Lai502

DB Boy

I absolutely 100% agree for what you said.  

"Knowledge can be gained by study and wisdom is gained by experience. I just hope that all parents could allow their kids to enjoy school, their childhood and puberty years. Do not stifle your child and take all the fun out of growing up.

My rules are that my sons need to be healthy, sporty, polite, speaks and read good English and Chinese, plays one music instrument and promotes to the next year without problems. I will never give him any pressure on academic results as long as he keeps himself ranking higher than one-third of his class."

This is first time for me to join this topic.  My son is going to study P1 at DBSPD.  Hope he'll be fine.  

Want to clarify that we have not any relationship with DBS such as connection or old boy...etc.  And some of my son's classmates also do not have any relationship and we are working mom too.  I think the system is no problem.

Hope can encourage some parents don't give up because you don't have any relationship.

DBBoy

Dear All

This is the value of a chatroom.  By writing here, I am hoping to do my part to alleviate the concerns of thsoe parents who was not part of the DBS family to join the DBS family.  My parents did not even complete their primary studies, therefore whether the parents are DBS related have nothing to do with how your son is going to enjoy DBS.

As a DBS old boy, all that we hope to see is that the parents build a genuine love for the school that your son is studying in.  

As parents, we do have to be critical sometimes and we all have to be supportive and understanding.  We have to praise when praise is deserved and air our discontent when a situtaion warrants such response.

DPJS is starting on a clean slab.  However, with the politics that is happening between DPS and DPJS and all the changes that are taking place, there will be alot of gossips, sparks,.....etc.  The role that parents play would be most important during these times.  DPJS has one of the best curriculum in HK at present, it has the resources and idealology to back up its methods.  It really needs our support to take off on a good start.  

DPJS is different than DPS and most other primary school on the fact that no one got in by luck or chance.  There was only one place for every 40 boys.  Each and everyone that is in DBS is "the best of the best" in their own unique way.   

I always believe that every child is unique, and every child is a genius and precious.  It is only us, the adults that sometimes (knowingly or unknowingly) stifled the genius that is in them.

For those parents shooting for 2005/06/07 admission, there is time to reflect and start to nourish and prepare your child and I wish all of you the best in your endeavours for admission into DPJS and DBS.

DBBoy

precious

That's true to me as well.   

It would be, however, more applicable for those kids who can enter the school with associated Secondary School (or a through train).  If not, it is understandable that parent and teacher will put pressure on academic results when the kids are in P4~P6.

Justin2002

DBBoy

I totally agree with what you said.  I am happy that my son is admitted to P.3 in the coming year and I do hope that he can study and grow up in a liberal envirornment which does not only look at the marks but the whole person.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience, particularly your advice.

Justin2002

CSL123

DBBoy,

I totally agree what you said.

I learnt from parents of St. Francis and Kowloon Tong Alliance Primary School that over 100 students of St. Francis and over 80 students of Kowloon Tong Alliance are accetped by DBJS.

Do you have any idea why DBJS accepts so many students from these two schools out of 390 places for P.2-P.6? Does the philosophy of these two schools resemble DB spirit?

Anyway, I will try hard to let my son to get into DBJS next year.

   

DBBoy

In fact, I heard my friend talking about this but this sounds like exodus to me.  I wonder what's left of those two schools that you mentioned.  As a DBS boy, I do not think that they should have done that because it leaves those two schools in ruins.  DPS teachers have been quite demoralised by reason of the departure of some of their favourite boys.  Imagine giving up your best to another school.

I think DPJS should have selected boys from all over HK to avoid the building up of gangs in the new school.  

I know nothing of those two schools and I cannot comment.

DBBoy

To: precious

The top schools in the world do not look at academic results alone.  It is old and outdated Hong Kong who looks at marks and grades with a microscope.  Did BIll Gates hold a Doctor's Degree and proved that he got great marks to his lecturers? (other than the ones that he got after he became a trillionaire)  Did Li Ka Shing finish his primary school???

I understand Yale/Harvard have swimming, football, tennis scholarships.

Who is to say a smart boy who writes slow and could not finish a 60 minute paper within the duration is any less than a smart boy who could write just faster than he???

When we know nothing about assessing a person's soul, we measure them by their wealth, when we know nothing about the many talents and attributes of a child, we measure them by their grades.....THIS IS A SAD WORLD FOR OUR KIDS.....

Not trying to promote the Whitney Houston concert...but listen to "Greatest Love of All" and get the meaning of its words.

DBBoy

To those who thinks I am big headed and trying to give a sermon here, I offer my apologies.  I just wish to air my discontent with the system, my discontent about misunderstanding about DBS and what it represents.

Have you ever heard about primary schools holding music auditions?  Track and field test?  Swimming trials???  The message that DBS is giving you parents is that study is not everything.  Be outstanding in any ONE (NOT TEN) or other like Kung Fu, Tennis, Table Tennis, Badminton, Singing, Chinese Opera....will get you into DBS.

Grades are important, but most have good grades...SO WHAT!!!

I REALLY SHOULD BE CHARGING FOR MY ADVICE HERE...JUST JOKING    SHOULD I HOLD A SEMINAR THIS SUMMER ON THIS TOPIC??