Cdnis or SIS

hkparent

原帖由 greenspring 於 14-04-23 發表
SIS primary has many different assessments and tests throughout the terms. Teachers always email to  ...

Not in any way similar to primary education in UK, US or Australia. It's like a Singapore school rather than IS in the general sense.

112200

hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 12:35
Not in any way similar to primary education in UK, US or Australia. It's like a Singapore school rat ...

All countries got different schools of different learning style. Parents should put their kids in school according to their capability and learning attitude. But to me , school is a miniature community. If we put kids in a pressure free greenhouse for many years..... can they really adopt to the world when they grow up . This is the matter of give & take, all learning style have pros and cons.

hkparent

原帖由 112200 於 14-04-23 發表
All countries got different schools of different learning style. Parents should put their kids in s ...

Most senior bankers in Central (foreigners) grew up in primary schools with minimal academic pressure.

shadeslayer

原帖由 ikerberg 於 14-04-23 發表
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 14-4-23 08:50 編輯

If my first message left in this post is read carefully ...

Thanks for your clarification. No, I am not interested in anything other than advice for the original poster. I just seek to understand here.

I have nothing to do with either school. There is no right or wrong, I just find holding Chinese as the top selection criterion above everything else an interesting concept.

shadeslayer

原帖由 112200 於 14-04-23 發表
re the question on " Chinese is the most important in evaluatiing an IS ?".....I think it just subje ...

English is assumed more or less at the similar level.

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I am not sure I agree with that. I have heard many cases where student
from one IS failed the English test of another IS.  

Ikerberg did mention it is either SIS or nothing (meaning local school) because of Chinese. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It just goes to show that there are people who really take Chinese as the most important criterion, to a point where curriculum,  teachers, likelihood of university locally or abroad etc are not as important.

Again it is value judgment and there is no right or wrong.

shadeslayer

原帖由 112200 於 14-04-23 發表
All countries got different schools of different learning style. Parents should put their kids in s ...

I understand ESF and many other western IS do not have homework for the entire primary years. Are you saying they are too protective?

Local school parents who send their loved ones to two kindergartens, or to schools having very competitive tests and exams from P1, they use the same "greenhouse" argument.  The question is not about pressure. The question is "when".

shadeslayer

hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 12:35
Not in any way similar to primary education in UK, US or Australia. It's like a Singapore school rat ...

SIS is partially funded by the Singapore government to look after education of Sinapore nationals in HK. Why am I not surprised to find that SIS share some similarities with schools in Singapore.

ikerberg

ikerberg

hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 13:09
Most senior bankers in Central (foreigners) grew up in primary schools with minimal academic pressur ...

Excuse me, I really do not want to look like argumentative, but I just wish to give some response to this argument. If your argument is right, i.e. certain types of education would yield certain types of successful people... then.. please consider Lee Ka Shing having no formal secondary school, whereas Steve Jobs and Bill Gates both quit university education, yet being so successful... why do we bother spending huge sum of money trying to land our kids on Oxbridge / IVY League colleges... And, friends of mine who are I Bankers in Central now did receive high-pressure school education in S.Korea, Singapore before securing a place in those famous U in US. After all, is being an 'I Banker' in Central a dream to all people?   How about a competent doctor who could save ppl's life while being able to earn quite a good salary? How about a scientist who builds machines to land ppl on Mars? Who is more successful, yet again, is very personal.

hkparent

原帖由 ikerberg 於 14-04-23 發表
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 14-4-23 14:19 編輯

I tend to agree with Shadeslayer on asking the question "when should the pressure start"?

ikerberg

hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 15:01
I tend to agree with Shadeslayer on asking the question "when should the pressure start"?

It is the question that every parent is going to answer for their kid(s), and pressure could be of various degrees, whereas different kids would also give different responses to pressure... some would thrive on it, while some would just fall flat in the face of it.

Having said that, in my view, the pressure of SIS's school/homework is moderate, somewhere in between of LS and very free IS.

While we can't say for sure whether there is a causal link between parents' choice and children's destiny, there would certainly be some correlation between the two.   With limited information, experience and examples for reference, we parents sometimes have to rely on some personal judgement, as well as intuition, to opt for a choice we hope to be right and most suitable to kids, on FAITH to a certan extent

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原帖由 hkparent 於 14-04-23 發表
Most senior bankers in Central (foreigners) grew up in primary schools with minimal academic pressur ...

Really ?  i am not going to query on how vaild the statistic, but i think no single occupation can reflect how gd the person can handle pressure. A lot of foreign school got wide range of intense on test and exam too. Especially in Britain.

112200

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 14-04-23 發表
I understand ESF and many other western IS do not have homework for the entire primary years. Are yo ...

No homework for entire primary years.... ? But i have to share w other  parents there is homework in primary esf.

112200

原帖由 hkparent 於 14-04-23 發表
I tend to agree with Shadeslayer on asking the question "when should the pressure start"?

Shadeslayer said " no homework throughout the entire primary years...."

DaddyR

i would like to express a quick "thank you" to everyone for the variety of differing views.  i guess the fact that so many differing viewpoints exist is why such a wide spectrum of education options is out there.

in any event, thanks for sharing!

compsognathus

I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started at SIS in PY1.

While I do agree SIS students suffer from varying levels of stress, I personally believe that this stress is at least partially due to personal problems.

I have a classmate who is rather stressed at school who constantly brings his worry to me. He has told me that his stress at school is due to trying to meet his father’s expectations. He has been punished severely for failing an exam which he tried to do his best in.

Another potential reason for stress at school is constant extracurricular activities. I have a friend who has to swim two hours a day for most of the week. She has told me that once she had to swim kilometers straight, and is also stressed about school. This stress might be due to extracurricular activities taking away time to revise or even potentially take away time for crucial projects, although I am not against extracurricular activities.

Most of my class is constantly stressed with trying not to get scolded by their teachers for not meeting expectations. I have overheard them muttering about hatred of the few teachers that do tend to scold them. However, I personally believe that it should be the fault of the student that he or she does not meet the teacher’s expectations and therefore gets scolded. My classmates’ various habits, like packing their items before class ends, talking in class, et cetera, would also contribute to their being scolded, and therefore being stressed.

But I digress. The main point is, stress in students can have multiple reasons, and it is important to isolate each one before tackling the problem.

hkparent

原帖由 compsognathus 於 14-04-23 發表
本帖最後由 compsognathus 於 14-4-23 22:23 編輯

I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started ...

You have a very high standard of written English at P6. But the school seems very traditional.

By now, if I had a choice between CDNIS and SIS, I would definitely choose the former, which is a real IS in the general sense.  Love and positive learning attitudes are what I value. A personal preference only. Both are good schools from different perspectives.

Jane1983

呢間叫新加坡國際學校，如果家長對新加坡教育理念、做法非常吾認同，根本in the first place就吾會報。

認識朋友的仔女讀esf、cndis、sis、cis、女拔和St Paul coed⋯等，觀察幾年，一個感覺係，如果小朋友係最top的幾%，其實佢係IS或LS或讀邊間，其實分別吾大，都係中英並重、有料、識表達自己、有分析力。

shadeslayer

原帖由 Jane1983 於 14-04-24 發表
呢間叫新加坡國際學校，如果家長對新加坡教育理念、做法非常吾認同，根本in the first place就吾會報。

認 ...

聰明，高學習動機的 1% 尖子，當然唔使教，自修也可成功，係人都知。但講尖子冇乜意思，其餘99%點呢？

shadeslayer

compsognathus 發表於 14-4-23 22:22
I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started at SIS in PY1.

While I do agree SIS students su ...

No schools are free of "personal" problems.  They are part of every school and the way the schools respond to "personal" problems partly characterizes the schools.